Quote from Wip3ou7 :

Hey everyone. I'm Wip3ou7, I have a gaming youtube show and I play all kinds of games, but I'm an avid racer and I decided to give this game a shot. I play in a customized SEGA Outrun 2 arcade cabinet which you can [see here] in a video I made a while ago. I haven't unlocked S1 or S2 yet, but we'll see Looking forward to playing!

Hi nice to see you! but you need the sim to race the game, after the money you spent on your cabnet it should be pennys!
Look forward to racing with you!

Quote from sinanju :

Wonder how many people remember the original 1969 Zager and Evans song 'In the year 2525'?

Hopefully, I'm not the only one!

No you are not sir!!

Thankyou and god bless you for 2012.
Thanks for the sim that is and the sim that may be. Looking forward to it!

Quote from Somebody :

36 post and 12 finished races...
You will surely be missed. Bye bye...

now now do not belittle or be sarcastic 5 min or 5 years we are all LFS lovers. Just some of us are more stubon than others.

Quote from micromental :

I have my reasons iv got learning difficulties. hence why i dont spell to your standards F*ck Face.

It was all going so well, i dont spell well my freind, i dont make a song and dance about it and i do not sweat at others, they are not aware of my problems and nore should they.
I think good bye is a good thing, farwell.

My problem has been with another controler, a "Speedpad N52" it does not play well with your program and stops the led's from doing anything.
This is a permanent controler on my syste so it will not be disconected.
Shame really as i was looking forward to running the app!
Good effort thought.

Happy christmas everyone!

Quote from Keling :

Re: #7

Can you provide more details on your training ? What kind of drivers do you train, for what purpose, and what car do you use ?

Cars can be anything from Audi A6’s to Saabs 93 to BMW’s 530.
Simulation provides opportunities to demonstrate and explain such things correct cornering technique, braking gear change and maintaining (System Of Vehicle Control).
Weight transfer while cornering / stability while cornering.
Skid identification and correction across front, rear and all wheel drive vehicles.
Importance of correct load displacement in respect of handling.
Comparison between fully loaded and unloaded vehicle handling.
Fuel efficient driving can also be demonstrated and practised quite effectively.
But one of the greatest benefits is the ability to teach and train motive reflex templates which can be difficult, costly and time consuming to do on road.
Currently LFS can reduce on road training by up to 20%.
It’s not a market that they should ignore, and they don’t!

I believe I have answered most of your questions the remainder I chose not to, other than to say they are not racing drivers but do rack up a significant number of road miles while working, please forgive me.

Quote from rageshgr :

woah! 3 years bump eh?, well IMO there are no auto-only cars in LFS now. So if LFS introduces an auto-only car like the McLaren SLR, then this feature must be implemented I guess.

Nothing wrong with a three year bump,,,, its not about what LFS is but rather what it could be, there are many applications other than plain old racing!

Quote from Keling :

"Friction coefficient" reminds me of the skid cars.

If that's what you want (just teaching normal daily commuters, no need to talk about weight transfer), lower down you suspension may be a dirty work-around.

Not commuters, there others out there that need to understand the physics of driving and the cars / vehicles they use have all the modern aids, we used to teach skid control... now it is awareness training because the vehicles will not skid in normal conditions.
The dirty work around has / is being used as is autocross tires, it's all good stuff thought.

Quote from Bluebird B B :

"Traction control and ABS are already implemented but should be rolled out across all the vehicles to more closely represent the modern vehicle fleet.'

On racing cars these options are NOT common and any driving aid should be banned in any racing class

I agree, but as I said its the driver training that would benifit!
And yes it should be a server option.

2007 and 2008 both carried Traction control threads.
This is not, solely, about traction control.

LFS has a greater following in driver training than you may imagine, what started of as a racing sim has become so much more over the years.

Skid awareness training is more prevalent now, with this in mind would it be possible to change the coefficient of friction for a surface, ether uniformly or randomly from 0.9 (high traction) to 0.025 (low traction). Principally it could be applied to the skid pad or autocross setup. I believe that it is already in place as the effect is similar on the auto cross dirt sections / tarmac transitions
It would also add to the racing dynamic if it could be implemented on the tracks!

Traction control and ABS are already implemented but should be rolled out across all the vehicles to more closely represent the modern vehicle fleet.
(ESP) is lacking as an option, although common on many modern vehicles and a legal requirement from 2015 for European cars. This feature would greatly enhance the usability of LFS for driver training.

Now before the purists kick off of course these options would have to be set on race servers….. race servers? Why not a driving server, we have cruise servers now and they still remain popular but are out in the cold.
As some business adviser would say;
“Diversify to stay alive”

I am looking forwarded to a sensible discussion as to the pros and cons for these suggestions, remembering of course software such as “Simax” are trying to cash in on this the market, users of LFS know we are already there we just need the edge!

Last edited by Waste Me, Fri 2 Dec 2011, 11:52. Reason : spelling

It gets my vote!

Physics is to valuable to let loose in here, if he has cracked it, it will be sold to a major developer or he will get a job on the back of it.
To say it is coming here is as good as a CV when you want a job.
The likes of Williams racing would pay a ransom for an accurate tyre physics model not to mention the tyre developers or the major games houses.
If you truly believe they would give something worth so much for so little to so many.....
It is nice to hope and believe and i still buy a lottery ticket every week!!

Here's hoping!!

Quote from bunder9999 :

did you forget to install some video card drivers?

maybe you have AA/AF too high?

Tried all settings, no change.

Last edited by Waste Me, Wed 4 May 2011, 21:15.

Quote from Flame CZE :

Also check if you have set mirror mode and clocks mode to real in view options.

Clocks and mirrors on, but thanks for reminding me.

No mirror view or Gauges when useing Z30.
Mirros show gray and gauges are black, all cars all tracks.
Pictures / graphics missing from start screen and menu back grounds.
I know a reinstall will fix this but i would like to find out why its is happening.

Thanks Scawen, Eric and Victor

Thanks guys, for what it is and not what it could be as that will be somthing diffrent!!

Quote from speedykev :

ya I agree with the devil you're losing a hell of a lot of good drivers.
I haven't even got lfs installed and I absolutely loved the game but not any more just lost interest.
It's all down to attitudes you don't bother with us we won't bother with you kind of thing,
you give us a progress report 1 in two years and you couldn't be bothered to tell us anything different,
I admit that when the patch comes out it will probably have the best tyre physics in any game unfortunately
the game itself is outdated. You concentrated on one massive job its is shame you left the rest of the game
to rot away.

Your words do not reflect your actions,,, after 7 years as a member you still take the time to comment... thankyou for your support my freind.
When it comes it comes and if it lives as long as S2 it will still be one of the longest lasting games out there.

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The fact that it has taken as long as it has is a testament to the quality of the existing model.[/QUOTE]
There is no fact, there is no information to even suggest that there is or ever will be a new physic model,,,, other than statements on this forum.
Maybe the intention was there!
But in hope we wait, LFS was and is still one of the best race sim available so god bless the developers for giving us that!

Question?
How long did it take to write the first game / sim?

Quote from boosterfire :

I wonder if Scawen gets some help from specialists about the whole physic calculation of this, or if he does this all alone. I mean, getting a tyre simulation to be perfect sounds close to impossible, and probably involves so much factors.

Also, if he succeeds in this tyre simulation, I wonder if it could have other uses else than LFS. I'm sure that stuff could be useful to some people.

Yer I think your right, there would be more money in a good tyre model rather than a sim... first one to the market will corner a lot I think!
Maybe it is to much to ask for an update as it may be commercially sensitive, you don’t want to give info away to the competitors. It may be to much to ask for them to give the tyre model to a load of sim heads.

Quote from Martin Deutschland :

Demo Racer opinions don´t count. Get out of my sight! :P

Your comments are not acceptable or welcome, nor do they reflect the views of all.
You are a selfish arrogant person and it is your opinion that is not welcome.
Please refrain from criticising others, help and support them.

The developers get a big thumbs up from me and of course a thankyou for the hours of fun this sim has supplied. If for nothing else... thankyou.